I think there may be too big of a gap between easy medium and hard camps in the amount of scrap they give. Now, easy camps give 40, medium give 160, and hard give 480. It feels like easy ones give too little comparatively and medium and hard give too much. This, combined with upgrades' reduction in cost makes scrap really easy to come by in the late game for a team that's ahead and makes it even less useful comparatively to build scrap in the core.
It could just be my reaction after playing it for a day with this change.
I tend to run long on stock whenever I lose track of production.
There were moments when all the camps were gone, but the lulls didn't last long enough to put together a serious attack on the enemy or anything.
Lavaspitters are pretty good, until AOE comes out (apocolytes etc)
I tried trappers a bit; not sure they did much. I found them difficult to use, especially in a hurry, because of the short range. Either I have to find the unit and click near it, or wait for it to walk to the target; often I'd end up canceling by issuing a move order.
I used zephyers a little in a bot game. I was disappointed that at max limit I was unable to stay permanently wind boosted, despite giving up a huge chunk of my army to essentially noncombat units. They are fun to use, but I'll want more experience in normal use to say if they are worth more than deadeyes and purifiers.
I queued scrap once in one game, and besides that did not touch the generators at all. I did run low on stock for very brief spells, but otherwise didn't feel stretched for resources. It probably helped that had strong teammates in all my games.
I played white this week, which I haven't done for some time. I really enjoy the way Vela's mark functions now. I played with Zephyrs and think they are fun but probably not very good right now. The Zephyr is fast, so it likes to float to the front of your army. Given its abilities that is where it should be positioned, but it does get picked off rather easily. It health is not that bad compared to units with a similar cost, but a lot of those have a longer range and sit behind your T1s. As such, I think making Zephyrs a little tanker couldn't help (It would also be nice if they were a little bigger, so that they stood out from my T1s a little more).
@Treisk About the Zephyr's Squall ability: It technically creates a net 60% disparity in movement speeds, but since the effect is only applied while units are in the radius, the effect is pretty small because your units are only in the area for a second. The Dervish's boost stronger in proportion to its greater duration (so several times stronger). I find Squall mostly good for slowing approaching enemies, which is sort of what Gust already does. In the interest of simplicity, it might be best to remove Squall and perhaps give some of its attributes to Gust. White can probably get by with only three 2-ability units.
UI Bug
I encountered some issues with the UI disappearing. During the unit selection of one game, the unused blocks of the screen turned black for a few seconds. I think this might have been when I switched pages. During the match, my UI failed to draw suddenly, and pieces of it gradually game back as I moused over them. I should have remembered exactly which game this was. I don't think it is something that would show in the replay. I will make a note if I see it again.
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I think there may be too big of a gap between easy medium and hard camps in the amount of scrap they give. Now, easy camps give 40, medium give 160, and hard give 480. It feels like easy ones give too little comparatively and medium and hard give too much. This, combined with upgrades' reduction in cost makes scrap really easy to come by in the late game for a team that's ahead and makes it even less useful comparatively to build scrap in the core.
It could just be my reaction after playing it for a day with this change.
I tend to run long on stock whenever I lose track of production.
There were moments when all the camps were gone, but the lulls didn't last long enough to put together a serious attack on the enemy or anything.
Lavaspitters are pretty good, until AOE comes out (apocolytes etc)
I tried trappers a bit; not sure they did much. I found them difficult to use, especially in a hurry, because of the short range. Either I have to find the unit and click near it, or wait for it to walk to the target; often I'd end up canceling by issuing a move order.
I used zephyers a little in a bot game. I was disappointed that at max limit I was unable to stay permanently wind boosted, despite giving up a huge chunk of my army to essentially noncombat units. They are fun to use, but I'll want more experience in normal use to say if they are worth more than deadeyes and purifiers.
I queued scrap once in one game, and besides that did not touch the generators at all. I did run low on stock for very brief spells, but otherwise didn't feel stretched for resources. It probably helped that had strong teammates in all my games.
I played white this week, which I haven't done for some time. I really enjoy the way Vela's mark functions now. I played with Zephyrs and think they are fun but probably not very good right now. The Zephyr is fast, so it likes to float to the front of your army. Given its abilities that is where it should be positioned, but it does get picked off rather easily. It health is not that bad compared to units with a similar cost, but a lot of those have a longer range and sit behind your T1s. As such, I think making Zephyrs a little tanker couldn't help (It would also be nice if they were a little bigger, so that they stood out from my T1s a little more).
@Treisk About the Zephyr's Squall ability: It technically creates a net 60% disparity in movement speeds, but since the effect is only applied while units are in the radius, the effect is pretty small because your units are only in the area for a second. The Dervish's boost stronger in proportion to its greater duration (so several times stronger). I find Squall mostly good for slowing approaching enemies, which is sort of what Gust already does. In the interest of simplicity, it might be best to remove Squall and perhaps give some of its attributes to Gust. White can probably get by with only three 2-ability units.
UI Bug
I encountered some issues with the UI disappearing. During the unit selection of one game, the unused blocks of the screen turned black for a few seconds. I think this might have been when I switched pages. During the match, my UI failed to draw suddenly, and pieces of it gradually game back as I moused over them. I should have remembered exactly which game this was. I don't think it is something that would show in the replay. I will make a note if I see it again.